Declined Remove 1.5x Guard Damage Multiplier

[edi]

Abso-fucking-lutely

I've already seen this on a few instances where a I'm a solo warden (no hunting guards) managing ~8-10 reds due to nobody else wanting join blue (primarily to avoid being warden).

And 1.5x damage did nothing for it. It is still happening. Damage was the wrong approach to this problem.

Maybe we could allow people to play blue side without having to want to be warden. One of the best guards I have ever seen in jailbreak was one that never talked, only during mic checks. He would catch me 9 times out of 10 with his rocket jumper. Because he knew I could win the fight had I collected ammo. A better player has a good chance to lose when up against a competent guard.

The rule for that jailbreak server was if you didn't want to be warden you have to slay yourself when chosen as warden. And he was a guy that never wanted to play warden but enjoyed being a guard. Changing the rules this way to allow more quality guards in could help in a good healthy way.

 

[kringu]

What i really just want to put across here since i can see there is alot of misunderstanding.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT REMOVING B-HOPPING, ONLY 1,5X DAMAGE MULTIPLIER.

They are not codependent.

No, but removing only one is completely out of the question. It won't be fun at all guaranteed for BLU. This server used to have guards with crits like every single other jb server, we voted to drop it to 1.5x as a compromise.

 

[kringu]

I understand the points you have given, i do. But i still do not see the problem since the blues have the exact same ability to chase. And lets say that you are a sniper bodyshotting a red rebeller. Chances are he/she is going to get one-shot or survive with limited hp (with or without healing items). You can chase them and finish them of from a distance.

A BLU chasing a RED is a win for RED team, they have more players. It's a 3-1 ratio of reds to blues, sometimes even a 4-1 ratio.

 

[edi]

A BLU chasing a RED is a win for RED team, they have more players. It's a 3-1 ratio of reds to blues, sometimes even a 4-1 ratio.

A blue chasing a red is a decision. You can let them go and beat them in numbers when they return. 8/9 classes have their main damage close range. Meaning that red has to come close again.

 

[mikalxmow]

It's not fun when a pyro can fucking two shot you so i say remove it.

 

[BabyBARKing]

And don't forget logistics: most people do not want to play on guard or do not have a mic. We need guards to have fun or they will switch to red, and then BLU will be weaker as a result, and then the remaining BLUs will have less fun against rebellers, etc. It's a negative feedback loop until BLU is empty and the server dies. I have seen this happen way too much, I'm not talking out of my ass here!

stop lying kringu your racist

 

[BabyBARKing]

It's not fun when a pyro can fucking two shot you so i say remove it

bro what are you on

 

[mikalxmow]

bro what are you on

Im pretty sure spys can be two shot by a pyro.

 

[BabyBARKing]

Im pretty sure spys can be two shot by a pyro.

bro two shot by what weapon?

 

[Monky]

bro sucked off by what weapon?

two shot ? I think you mean flamed or shot

 

[mikalxmow]

bro two shot by what weapon?

The flare guns can two shot a kunai and big earner spy and the other spy users can be killed off by after burn and as proof a two shot from the flare guns does about 106.5 depending on how your aim is.

 

[edi]

The flare guns can two shot a kunai and big earner spy and the other spy users can be killed off by after burn and as proof a two shot from the flare guns does about 106.5 depending on how your aim is.

Flare gun actually only needs one shot currently to kill all 125hp classes with 1.5x if you count afterburn.

 

[mikalxmow]

Flare gun actually only needs one shot currently to kill all 125hp classes with 1.5x if you count afterburn.

Yeah but i went with two shot since i was only counting damage and not afterburn plus i didn't really think 1.5x counted to afterburn :P

 

[Firebird]

A BLU chasing a RED is a win for RED team, they have more players. It's a 3-1 ratio of reds to blues, sometimes even a 4-1 ratio.

Also if you are for the removal of the 1,5x then why are you voting no?

 

[kringu]

Also if you are for the removal of the 1,5x then why are you voting no?

Removal of 1.5x damage is only reasonable if Bhop is removed... the topic is only suggesting to remove one of these so I can't agree.

 

[kringu]

And most people who have played the server prefer bhop to be on, so based on that it would be better to leave the damage how it is.

 

[K̶̐͋̔̽a̴̢̗̖̬̿i̵̻͔̝̍ 壊]

This might be a dumb suggestion, but why don't we create an LR option called 'JB classic' where B-hop & damage buff are removed for a single round?

 

[kringu]

This might be a dumb suggestion, but why don't we create an LR option called 'JB classic' where B-hop & damage buff are removed for a single round?

I thought of that at one point, an LR where bhop is enabled. But again I'm not sure if most people want bhop removed.

 

[K̶̐͋̔̽a̴̢̗̖̬̿i̵̻͔̝̍ 壊]

I thought of that at one point, an LR where bhop is enabled. But again I'm not sure if most people want bhop removed.

Bhop won't be removed, it'll stay as the default setting on regular days but will be disabled on "Classic Jb" days

 

[kringu]

Bhop won't be removed, it'll stay as the default setting on regular days but will be disabled on "Classic Jb" days

Sorry, misread what you said. Yeah that'd be interesting.