Accepted Remove the order "Guards are no longer allowed to bait."

[shadshad0]

The main reason why I want this to be removed as an order because guards will abuse it as much as they can. This order is bad mainly because the guards like to abuse it as much as they can. I've never witnessed a moment where the warden says this order, and a guard/guards will just be with the reds. It's also unfair for the reds when the guards abuse this and they will be in the melee range of the reds for most of the round, and the reds can't do anything about it. The only reason why I would use this order is when it's hunger game and blues want to spectate so they can't get hit.

 

[Zak[DZ]]

What about Motivating the reds

 

[Ruddy]

What about trying to kill a rebeller inside of cells, then the reds kill you because you’re inside the cells and “baiting”

 

[shadshad0]

What about trying to kill a rebeller inside of cells, then the reds kill you because you’re inside the cells and “baiting”

use a gun, not that hard sometimes

 

[shadshad0]

What about Motivating the reds

motivating is kinda dumb in my opinion, I'd rather just give a time limit to the reds. It's a lot easier this way and motivating is pretty much just so the blue can play the minigame and sometimes they will die in it.

 

[Ruddy]

use a gun, not that hard sometimes

Yes but what’re the chances blues are explosive classes or just can’t aim in general

 

[shadshad0]

Yes but what’re the chances blues are explosive classes or just can’t aim in general

if they can't aim that shouldn't be used to abuse an entire order just to kill some red in cells. Let someone that can aim to kill the rebelling red. You could also quickly go into a cell to kill the red if you can kill them fast enough. I also never surprisingly see people doing this order to kill a red in cells. I usually see Warden's say the order after everyone is out of the cells.

 

[fisch]

What about Motivating the reds

Dumb order. Just use "Bombrush through x or you're kos". If you use "Guards can motivate reds" order, you're at a risk of losing a guard, unless the guard knows how to finish the minigame or can use a gun, then maybe not.

 

[oofy_the_duck]

no

 

[shadshad0]

no

I haven't seen you in the server lately. But I actually want to know your reasoning on why you don't want to remove this order. I know you are the type of person that would abuse this power anyway.

 

[boop]

IMO this should be accepted. Forcebaiting already exists as a way to make REDs KOS if they are after guards. Additionally, if a guard dies because they were baiting, it's their fault. You shouldn't be able to give a get out of jail free card to everyone as to counter incompetence. Instead, leave forcebaiting there, like it has always been, as a way to teach them about their mistake. Finally, about the "guards can motivate" order, I'd go with what others said already. Not needed to exist, only there to troll the RED team and easily replaceable by time limit orders.

 

[oofy_the_duck]

I haven't seen you in the server lately. But I actually want to know your reasoning on why you don't want to remove this order. I know you are the type of person that would abuse this power anyway.

people dont want me in the server so yeah and the reason is so people dont fucking try to kill me

 

[shadshad0]

people dont want me in the server so yeah and the reason is so people dont fucking try to kill me

Again, it is your fault if you bait the reds. This order has no point other than to annoy the reds when the guards abuse this order. You should be watching everywhere that you are going as a guard and you baiting would entirely be your fault unless it is a force bait. Which in that case the red would be KOS.

 

[sugarr]

Again, it is your fault if you bait the reds. This order has no point other than to annoy the reds when the guards abuse this order. You should be watching everywhere that you are going as a guard and you baiting would entirely be your fault unless it is a force bait. Which in that case the red would be KOS.

I agree because if you say gaurda can't bait then there is nothing reds can do bout force baiting and now also Rebel Status = KOS

 

[sugarr]

I agree because if you say guards can't bait then there is nothing reds can do bout force baiting and now also Rebel Status = KOS

 

[oofy_the_duck]

if you say gaurda can't bait then there is nothing reds can do bout force baiting and now also Rebel Status = KOS

thats what i like about it

 

[fisch]

thats what i like about it

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[boop]

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Simple case of incompetence resulting in taking the easy way out.

 

[fisch]

Simple case of incompetence resulting in taking the easy way out.

Ah thank you for explaining it sir.

 

[KARL]

thats what i like about it

If you can’t stay out of the melee range of reds I don’t think you should even be on blu tbh