Accepted Enable bhop during VSH LR

[HoneyBadger]

You honestly don't need bhop. All classes can fight the hale. They just need to outplay him.

 

[matt]

Staff members aren't around all the time. Why put this in if there is going to be a risk involved?

Doesn't that apply to every rule and lr in jb?

Without staff you are left to trusting that the players will follow the rules.

If a player still breaks the rules, the players can report them or use.!calladmin

 

[HoneyBadger]

Doesn't that apply to every rule and lr in jb?

Without staff you are left to trusting that the players will follow the rules.

If a player still breaks the rules, the players can report them or use.!calladmin

Yes that is correct. But why include bhop if it is also going to be a risk? Aren't we trying to reduce risks and not add more?

 

[matt]

This is the problem. Nobody wants to see that. Its just a waste of time. Think about the players waiting for the round to end. Not only the players that are alive.

You could say the same for prophunt and hide and see. Some people like to watch a hale get taken down by a solo player

 

[HoneyBadger]

You could say the same for prophunt and hide and see. Some people like to watch a hale get taken down by a solo player

Well, that is the point of the game. To hide and to not get caught. It wouldn't really make sense for you to be the odd one out in those LRs. VSH can cause alot of delay if bhop is added.

 

[festive god]

You could say the same for prophunt and hide and see. Some people like to watch a hale get taken down by a solo player

Neither of those lrs require the reds to kill the blus, how are we even comparing those two lrs? Also I explained earlier the issues with bombing runs that they do low damage and will take an unreasonable amount of time to kill the red thus no point in doing it really

 

[matt]

@festive god @Apple Pie ?
I've said my piece, there's no point in arguing with you two as it won't ammount to any sort of resolotion.

 

[BabyBARKing]

Don't forget Cloud too

does cloud still play?

 

[BabyBARKing]

Staff members aren't around all the time. Why put this in if there is going to be a risk involved?

but bunnyhop is fun ;-;

 

[Banana]

. But why include bhop if it is also going to be a risk? Aren't we trying to reduce risks and not add more?

Why give blues weapons if it is also going to be a risk? Arent we trying to reduce risks and add more?

 

[HoneyBadger]

Why give blues weapons if it is also going to be a risk? Arent we trying to reduce risks and add more?

Because that is the purpose of the game? Guards and prisoners? I'm talking about risk of abuse.. avoid what we can and keep what we can't.

 

[Banana]

Your argument is silly because pretty much everything can be abused to rule break but we trust players not to do so.
Just because there MIGHT be delaying doesn’t necessarily mean bhop should be removed, similarly to how a demo man with a sticky bomb launcher MIGHT mass freekill or sticky trap.
There’s always risks and you can’t make it perfect but people shouldn’t have to suffer for the occasional hypothetical delaying spy or whatever.

 

[HoneyBadger]

Your argument is silly because pretty much everything can be abused to rule break but we trust players not to do so.
Just because there MIGHT be delaying doesn’t necessarily mean bhop should be removed, similarly to how a demo man with a sticky bomb launcher MIGHT mass freekill or sticky trap.
There’s always risks and you can’t make it perfect but people shouldn’t have to suffer for the occasional hypothetical delaying spy or whatever.

Argument may be silly but I'm against the idea of bhop in VSH. It is just a waste of time. You guys make it sound as if without bhop, VSH is ruined forever. However, the game is still completely functional without it.

 

[BabyBARKing]

Your argument is silly because pretty much everything can be abused to rule break but we trust players not to do so.
Just because there MIGHT be delaying doesn’t necessarily mean bhop should be removed, similarly to how a demo man with a sticky bomb launcher MIGHT mass freekill or sticky trap.
There’s always risks and you can’t make it perfect but people shouldn’t have to suffer for the occasional hypothetical delaying spy or whatever.

you're silly ;-;

 

[festive god]

Guys... guyssss no need to get heated anyways bhop was removed in the first place for the abuse wasn’t it so banana argument about trust has already been proven wrong as that’s one of the reasons it was removed from the start. Stop saying the if there was abuse, because there was and to bring it back only means more abuse

 

[festive god]

It was high amount of delaying as well and such it was taken out for that, y’all want it back cause u say it has no charm or just not functioning correctly and your wrong vsh doesn’t use bhop ever, y’all need some different points other than those cause they have been proven incorrect or at least try to answer the issues at hand

 

[festive god]

Also I’m loving this conversation, Tis super fun so let’s keep it going even if we lose or win it’s all fun in the end

 

[HoneyBadger]

Guys... guyssss no need to get heated anyways bhop was removed in the first place for the abuse wasn’t it so banana argument about trust has already been proven wrong as that’s one of the reasons it was removed from the start. Stop saying the if there was abuse, because there was and to bring it back only means more abuse

Correct! It was removed because of abuse and massive delay. So why add it back when it will cause the same problem?

 

[Banana]

So why add it back when it will cause the same problem?

It MIGHT, there is no guarantee.
Adding it back means every class can play in interesting ways that arent just camping because of how fast Hale is. Bhop gives incentive to actually make rounds fun basically.

 

[Ginger]

It MIGHT, there is no guarantee.
Adding it back means every class can play in interesting ways that arent just camping because of how fast Hale is. Bhop gives incentive to actually make rounds fun basically.

- pretty sure it did, and that's why it was removed in the first place.