Declined Mutliple weapon blocks for JB

SleeperStim · Jun 29, 2021

There are some weapons in Jailbreak that are used for baiting, MFH/MFK or other problems. The following weapons im suggesting for blocking.

Huo-Long Heater: I don't see people using this but the ring of fire is the cause of it.

Mad-Milk: A mass freehit item, Jarate is blocked, so why isnt the milk?

Stickybomb launchers: Baiting weapons, obviously.

Machina: Collaterals.

sugarr · Jun 29, 2021

Mk let me say something

Huo-Long Heater: Yes it can be used by mfkers but the big downside is the ammo usage it eats ammo up quickly so I would say no

Mad-Milk: Yea that makes sense

Stickbomb Launcher: Now this is where it gets weird you want to remove a weapon that is very useful on certain LRs just cuase of this one reason I say no

Machina: Yea Makes sense

in my opinion I'd say No.

SleeperStim · Jun 29, 2021

The_Funny said:
Mk let me say something

Huo-Long Heater: Yes it can be used by mfkers but the big downside is the ammo usage it eats ammo up quickly so I would say no

Mad-Milk: Yea that makes sense

Stickbomb Launcher: Now this is where it gets weird you want to remove a weapon that is very useful on certain LRs just cuase of this one reason I say no

Machina: Yea Makes sense

in my opinion I'd say No.

Problems with the stickies is that people use it for baiting. Just like in WLD. I can agree that it deletes ammo fast but the fire ring causes mfk for the huo long heater.

Ginger · Jun 29, 2021

I find the reason "it can be used for mfk" kinda dumb. Literally 90% of the weapons can be used for mfk, shall we ban all pyro and demo primaries as well? The mad milk sure why not but the machina ban I also find uneccesary as again, it is not the only weapon that can hit multiple enemies at once.

Slaborbay · Jun 29, 2021

Alright its time to remove every weapon from the blue team because they have the potential to mfk/break rules that is such a "good idea" while we are at it remove the 1.5x damage because it makes it easier to mfk. This suggestion is really dumb you want to remove the stickybomb launcher what will the demo have in the secondary slot??

Sonny · Jun 29, 2021

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Weapons

Lets get rid of all of them they do damage

festive god · Jun 29, 2021

cough cough doesnt matter about collateral when a solider can just bomb all the reds, soooooooooo no also mad milk is just a good way to heal during a fight while supporting your team so also no. finally i like the huo-long heater so agian no. I say no to all of this

SleeperStim · Jun 29, 2021

festive god said:
cough cough doesnt matter about collateral when a solider can just bomb all the reds, soooooooooo no also mad milk is just a good way to heal during a fight while supporting your team so also no. finally i like the huo-long heater so agian no. I say no to all of this

Good point, but when they are on a line, a sniper with the machina can just obliterate them with headshots and cause a mass freekill. Mad milk, like the jarate which was blocked due to mass freehitters, has the same ability as the jarate to soak them in cum/milk when the warden makes a marker, causing a mass freehit. I did mention that generally i dont see people running it, but i pointed out the ring of fire can cause a mfk.

matt · Jun 29, 2021

Pong (aka p_ng) said:
Good point, but when they are on a line, a sniper with the machina can just obliterate them with headshots and cause a mass freekill. Mad milk, like the jarate which was blocked due to mass freehitters, has the same ability as the jarate to soak them in cum/milk when the warden makes a marker, causing a mass freehit. I did mention that generally i dont see people running it, but i pointed out the ring of fire can cause a mfk.

Using the argument "could be used for mfk" is ridiculous.
Why don't we just disable damage, if nobody dies how can anyone be frekul?

dork · Jun 30, 2021

I agree with literally every comment here lmao. What potential does mad milk have for mfk? It does zero damage itself and doesn't make reds take any more damage.

The huo and machina are just weapons with abilities that give more damage potential, mostly in specific scenarios, if you wanna get rid of those we might as well just remove 1.5x damage right?

The collateral argument means nothing because snipers on blue are always either too high up for it to be effective, or are using the rifle to pick off rebellers; If they happen to freekill with collateral they can simply be punished, just like a scout who uses a scatter gun to freekill.

SleeperStim · Jun 30, 2021

dork said:
I agree with literally every comment here lmao. What potential does mad milk have for mfk? It does zero damage itself and doesn't make reds take any more damage.

The huo and machina are just weapons with abilities that give more damage potential, mostly in specific scenarios, if you wanna get rid of those we might as well just remove 1.5x damage right?

The collateral argument means nothing because snipers on blue are always either too high up for it to be effective, or are using the rifle to pick off rebellers; If they happen to freekill with collateral they can simply be punished, just like a scout who uses a scatter gun to freekill.

Mad Milk has the ability to mass freehit like the jarate does

dork · Jun 30, 2021

Pong (aka p_ng) said:
Mad Milk has the ability to mass freehit like the jarate does

My point was how can it freehit if it does zero damage.

SleeperStim · Jun 30, 2021

dork said:
My point was how can it freehit if it does zero damage.

Even if the throwables dont do damage, its still freehit

Ginger · Jun 30, 2021

Pong (aka p_ng) said:
Even if the throwables dont do damage, its still freehit

tis baiting

festive god · Jun 30, 2021

Look I ain’t saying it’s not free hit, I’m saying keep the weapon cause it’s useful for support from scout

SleeperStim · Jun 30, 2021

Ginger said:
View attachment 1157tis baiting

I can see where you get that, but is it still freehit if you hit them with the cum or piss?

festive god · Jun 30, 2021

Okay so why do u want to get rid of it? Cause of freehit. That’s all

festive god · Jun 30, 2021

Cause u need a bit more reason then that, I still say no cause it’s a great support tool

SleeperStim · Jun 30, 2021

festive god said:
Okay so why do u want to get rid of it? Cause of freehit. That’s all

Causes mass freehit, and the jarate is blocked so why isnt the milk?

festive god · Jun 30, 2021

Cause I like the milk, also idk about the jarate thing but I say we keep the milk

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Declined Mutliple weapon blocks for JB

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Nah, keep em

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