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Accepted Remove the order "Guards are no longer allowed to bait."

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SolarSocks

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I don't think the order should be flat out banned, as there are situations where a guard has to get in reds melee range (motivating in dr/obby, checking cells, moving through tight spaces with lots of reds, etc).
However the order is also able to be abused quite heavily, although I haven't seen much of it. In my opinion the rules should be updated to make the order tighter, such as only in the circumstances I mentioned, not being able to abuse walking in and out of melee range, etc.
Throwables like milk should also always count as baiting and be worth a slay with overuse of it, regardless of what warden says.
 

oofy_the_duck

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I don't think the order should be flat out banned, as there are situations where a guard has to get in reds melee range (motivating in dr/obby, checking cells, moving through tight spaces with lots of reds, etc).
However the order is also able to be abused quite heavily, although I haven't seen much of it. In my opinion the rules should be updated to make the order tighter, such as only in the circumstances I mentioned, not being able to abuse walking in and out of melee range, etc.
Throwables like milk should also always count as baiting and be worth a slay with overuse of it, regardless of what warden says.
uh yeah thats why we use that order not to abuse it we dont abuse it i swear
 

shadshad0

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I don't think the order should be flat out banned, as there are situations where a guard has to get in reds melee range (motivating in dr/obby, checking cells, moving through tight spaces with lots of reds, etc).
However the order is also able to be abused quite heavily, although I haven't seen much of it. In my opinion the rules should be updated to make the order tighter, such as only in the circumstances I mentioned, not being able to abuse walking in and out of melee range, etc.
Throwables like milk should also always count as baiting and be worth a slay with overuse of it, regardless of what warden says.
Motivating shouldn't be a thing in the first place because it's an easy way to get a guard killed unless they're really good at the minigame (which is rare) I don't see how you would be in a tight space withots of reds plus if they did happen, it would be entirely the guards fault for putting themselves in that situation. The only reason I'd see myself using this order is for spectating during hunger games. Also I already talked about why this order is useless for killing someone in cells.
 

fisch

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situations where a guard has to get in reds melee range (motivating in dr/obby, checking cells, moving through tight spaces with lots of reds, etc).
Like me and shad said, motivating reds is a bad order. Either set a time limit or say "bombrush through x". You have guns, use them. Don't get close to reds, it'll only cause trouble.
 

HoneyBadger

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let me put this in a way you all can understand. no.
 

HoneyBadger

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guards cannot bait is a safety protocol that a warden can imply in times of crisis or difficult situations. This would be handy as majority of the server will be in red team. this speaks for itself. Further more, the order will give more authority and confidence to the blue team. I would know, I'm a psychology major. Therefore, Dr. apple says no.
 

shadshad0

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guards cannot bait is a safety protocol that a warden can imply in times of crisis or difficult situations. This would be handy as majority of the server will be in red team. this speaks for itself. Further more, the order will give more authority and confidence to the blue team. I would know, I'm a psychology major. Therefore, Dr. apple says no.
In my opinion, it would be the blues fault if they were in a difficult situation for not suppressing the reds. Also, what does psychology have to do with removing an order? It shouldn't make the guards feel confident because that means that they would just abuse the order like they always do. Plus, aren't you still in high school???
 

Moonman

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guards cannot bait is a safety protocol that a warden can imply in times of crisis or difficult situations. This would be handy as majority of the server will be in red team. this speaks for itself. Further more, the order will give more authority and confidence to the blue team. I would know, I'm a psychology major. Therefore, Dr. apple says no.
no you are a staff member on flux and you are also a delusional major
 

HoneyBadger

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In my opinion, it would be the blues fault if they were in a difficult situation for not suppressing the reds. Also, what does psychology have to do with removing an order? It shouldn't make the guards feel confident because that means that they would just abuse the order like they always do. Plus, aren't you still in high school???

hell nah. high school for kids.
 

HoneyBadger

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I'm sorry but I don't think psychology has anything to do with guards not being able to bait. So I don't even know why you bring it up. It's like the most humble brag I've heard.
you caught me, I don't want it removed. I usually die when I get cornered -___-
 

HoneyBadger

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motivating will not be allowed if guards can't bait order is removed. I suggest rethink and change your vote.
 

fisch

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i dont want gaurds cannot bait removed i will type a full fucking 10 paragraphs to get it back if they get rid of it
Mate, I have never seen you use it in my life. I don't get why you don't want an order (that you don't even use in the first place) to be removed. If you really are gonna write ten paragraphs (even if I know you won't lol) then don't write it about the guards not being allowed to bait order. We already debunked it on why it's a bad order, that sometimes get's abused by shitty wardens.
 
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