Problems with the baiting rule

[Osome Oli]

According to the rules, a guard is only baiting if he is in the melee range of a red. So there are many reds who think they have the right to run 5 metres to hit a baiter, then yell 'FREEKILL' when they are killed. This can be solved by telling them to read the rules, but it happens with admins too. I have seen at least 5 instances where an admin has respawned themselves because they were killed for hitting a guard that was well outside their melee range.

So I think either that rule should be changed, or that more emphasis should be put on that rule so players and admins understand that they can't get away with hitting a guard 5 metres away.

Another thing is that Jarate + Airblast is baiting and warden cannot bait. Does this mean warden can airblast and throw piss at reds at will?

 

[Jazz]

Okay so about the admins and others who do this, I want to say that you should emphasis on this, and also that I think that the warden can throw piss and airblast because he'es the warden, he'es the boss

 

[Engie]

Well I've seen ****** respawn himself many times saying that a blu is baiting, yet they are a few steps away. And he also says "warden never specified no force baiting". I'm fine with that but it's just rude in a sense.

 

[SWIGGY]

You must clearly state to not chase, then you would have no problems with
People spamming free killer in chat and admins respawning

 

[Osome Oli]

You must clearly state to not chase, then you would have no problems with
People spamming free killer in chat and admins respawning

Chasing is irrelevant, because you can only chase blues AFTER they bait. The problem here is that reds hit blues even when they are not in the melee range, which is forcebait.

 

[SWIGGY]

Chasing is irrelevant, because you can only chase blues AFTER they bait. The problem here is that reds hit blues even when they are not in the melee range, which is forcebait.

When you state no chasing it basically means no force baiting

 

[Osome Oli]

When you state no chasing it basically means no force baiting

Yes, but forcebaiting is default kos if you're breaking a warden's order by doing so (e.g. AFK freeze, no detours).

 

[SWIGGY]

Yes, but forcebaiting is default kos if you're breaking a warden's order by doing so (e.g. AFK freeze, no detours).

Then you have the right to kill them if they dont follow orders

 

[Osome Oli]

Then you have the right to kill them if they dont follow orders

Well the funny thing is, that actually happened to you a few times, and you call 'FREEKILL' and respawn yourself. :/

 

[SWIGGY]

Well the funny thing is, that actually happened to you a few times, and you call 'FREEKILL' and respawn yourself. :/

I respawn my self because you didnt state no chasing, then when I do respawn you say " it automatically means no chasing" or something along the those lines

 

[Osome Oli]

I respawn my self because you didnt state no chasing, then when I do respawn you say " it automatically means no chasing" or something along the those lines

No, but you were meant to be AFK frozen and you unfroze to hit a guard. So that is a forcebait which makes you KOS unless warden lets you forcebait.

 

[SWIGGY]

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No, but you were meant to be AFK frozen and you unfroze to hit a guard. So that is a forcebait which makes you KOS unless warden lets you forcebait.

IF HE BAITS I CAN HIT HIM AND CHASE HIM unless you say not to chase, Simple

 

[Osome Oli]

An

IF HE BAITS I CAN HIT HIM AND CHASE HIM unless you say not to chase, Simple

Please refer to my previous replies. If you have to move to hit him whilst afk, then he is outside your melee range and therefore it is a forcebait, making you KOS.

 

[Davidtornado]

ive been a victim of such bad things throw my jb life, once there was this f2p pyro who was baiting so hard that i one shoted it with my ubersaw THEN the warden killed me even tho he said "you are all alowed to hit baiters and chase them for 2 seconds" and i didnt moved an inch when i did that, so thats why when im warden i say to them "you are all alowed to hit baiters and chase them for 2 seconds"