Declined Admin Application

[adam]

REPOST:

We played a couple of times and you are funny. But if you push aside the jokes, I believe you can contribute a lot to the administrating branch. The only negative thing I can probably find is your ingame name and your chatlog. However, because of your well written application, I am giving this app a THUMBS UP.

Good luck

 

[Gay_Scout_Main]

To be honest i'm just being blackmailed right now, and until i get a reason what i can fully understand i will change my name, as everyone should have the freedom to have their name anyway they like if it doesn't break the rules.

Anyways every one has a bit of childish in them including you.
You have "retarded" under your name. I think that's funny but i still take you seriously.

 

[adam]

Fine then, I'm saying keep it.

 

[Gay_Scout_Main]

Fine then, I'm saying keep it.

Thank you for understanding and listening to my point of view. I appreciate you listening to another player and this is why i respect you but still take you seriously.

 

[Mr.]

May I ask what is your time zone and when can you usually get on?

 

[Gay_Scout_Main]

London's time zone. I usually am awake till 12:00 at night and i will usually wake up around 8:00 to 9:30.
I Know why you disliked this, it's because to many EU admins but don't worry i can extend how long i can stay awake.

 

[Mr.]

You are very childish in jailbreak. You mic spam and talk about the most random and irrevelant subjects (Some might be quite inappropriate as well). I do not think you are mature enough for admin position, therefore I am changing my choice of side and giving this application a NO

 

[Spades]

Well no, but when you're administrating you're suposed to be serious most of the times, you can use that really gay scout name sometimes in joking times, however.
I suppose..

Says the guy who changes his name every fucking week.

Nah, don't worry about it, Scout. Silly names or pictures are A-ok. The admin tag and the right amount of authority is all you need to tell people that you mean business.

 

[Spades]

Myself, I'm in no place to vote yes or no since I haven't played TF2 in a month :P

 

[Gay_Scout_Main]

You see Mr. , Spades here is completely correct and to be honest if i'm not capable of being admin then i must say you are not capable of reading an application as i quote "Also if you know me, i can be a bit stupid at times, but if i do become staff i will have to stop and if i don't stop, demote me" so i don't really understand why you're saying that. Secondly if i have been doing what you have said there then why have you never ever taken action if i can recall you have warned me around 3 times and it's funny though because i remember you screaming and doing stupid stuff so i don't know why you are being a hypocrite as well. Thirdly and finally no offence this is my opinion but i don't think you are a very good admin at all as from my experiences with you some have been very unpleasant as you have rarely warned any one before taking action, you say i mic spam and say irrelevant subjects but you don't say anything when i do it. I'm sorry if you got offended in anyway or kind but you have really put a NO on my application for a very minor thing.

 

[Spades]

You see Mr. , Spades here is completely correct and to be honest if i'm not capable of being admin then i must say you are not capable of reading an application as i quote "Also if you know me, i can be a bit stupid at times, but if i do become staff i will have to stop and if i don't stop, demote me" so i don't really understand why you're saying that. Secondly if i have been doing what you have said there then why have you never ever taken action if i can recall you have warned me around 3 times and it's funny though because i remember you screaming and doing stupid stuff so i don't know why you are being a hypocrite as well. Thirdly and finally no offence this is my opinion but i don't think you are a very good admin at all as from my experiences with you some have been very unpleasant as you have rarely warned any one before taking action, you say i mic spam and say irrelevant subjects but you don't say anything when i do it. I'm sorry if you got offended in anyway or kind but you have really put a NO on my application for a very minor thing.

Mr dun got shrekt

 

[adam]

It seems like I have time to write this reply, changing my vote to a neutral leaning towards no.
I'm going to make some points on why I feel like you aren't a very capable of being an administrator here unfortunately, and please note, that these are only opinions that have gone to my head:

• Your chatlog is filled with EXTREME amounts of toxicity, as seen from here: http://stats.flux.tf/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=353884 Like, that's expected from someone young like you for example, but not at that high of an amount, that's not all, the chatlog was recorded TWO days ago, after your application has been created, that's a minus. Here's 3 screenshots explaining the amount of toxicity:
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• You spammed in the shoutbox like 2 times, that's not a huge minus, but it's a minor one:
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• You've disrespected @Mr. way too much, I assume you remember the time he muted you with no warning, and then you PMed me flaming him, unfortunately, I do not have a screenshot of this, I've tried going into my mobile chats because they store more chats there, but I still didn't find it.

I wouldn't find you as a admin material with that kind of behavior to be honest, and I know that you're going to argue with me because I'm giving you a neutral leaning onto a thumbs up, but chill, this is only my opinion.
@8-Bit_Kitsune Kitsune, please reply on this application.
@Flux after kitsune replies, you can give your final verdict on this application if you want to.

 

[Conor]

Okay then, my opinion on this user.

I'll start by listing the POSITIVES.
. An approachable individual at all points. I've known Really_Gay_Scout_Main_With_Aids to be someone open to conversation, easy to talk to. He's a person who gives anyone and everyone the chance to voice their opinion be it good or bad, this person will listen to them and pay close attention.
. Fairly down to earth. He's a face to face kinda guy. He hasn't ever lied to me, he's never made himself out to be above me or anybody else he shares the server with, a true delight to play with or against in a game server.
. Reasonable. He's a stand up guy for the most part, open to criticism and is usually quite a diplomatic individual, allowing everyone to say their piece without receiving any aggression or unpleasant response.
. He understands the rules and enforces them to letter. There has not been one point at which I have seen Really_Gay_Scout_Main_With_Aids to disregard the rules or intentionally disobey an admin or a rule that has been set down. If the rule says be clear in your orders/commands (Jailbreak) this guy will repeat his orders in four different languages if he so has to!

But this is only when a figure of authority is present, he often appears to be a completely different character when the staff members are not on the server. For him to be reliable, he often needs to be baby-sitted. This leads me to my next point, the NEGATIVES of his application and who wrote it. Let's do this.

. I'll start with the rules. He will disobey them, often finding himself being disrespectful to other players and staff members, my evidence being in this gem of a chat log.
http://stats.flux.tf/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=353884
. Graphic language. This person will often speak in an over sexually manner for example using explicit or provocative language to other people and describing other people in a sexual way. He has spoken about users such as myself in this way on a number of occasions.
. Insults/Bullying. If a user sounds of a young age they are certain to receive aggressive comments or insults in regards to this. When it comes to children on the server, this user is the playground bully.
. Deceit. This stems back to the link between my positive and negative points, all of this user's positive aspects shine and brighten up the Jailbreak experience for everyone! But this only when an admin such as Mr., death. or GreGre are on. I am using these in particular as examples as for example when ColdRamen is present on the server Really_Gay_Scout_Main_With_Aids becomes an awkward mix of a model player, and a potentially superb admin and a preteen bully, immature, offensive, sexual, and sometimes quite racist. All of this is put down as "Banter" when it is called to the attention of ColdRamen. However he is quiet and respectful in the presence of the more serious individuals who administrate for the Flux.TF servers.
. Racism. A lot of the language used by this user can be described as vulgar, offensive or downright racist. When he speaks he has no one's opinion's in mind, anyone not friends with this user is potentially the butt of his next joke.


Now that I've laid down my opinion on this user In general I think he would be an excellent admin! However we cannot have a more responsible staff member baby-sitting him at every minute of which he occupies one of the servers ran by my internet girlfriend, Flux and because of this his good qualities become obsolete as if he requires a responsible person to accompany him when he is administrating a server then I don't think it's worth it as the responsible admin would be just as capable of doing their job without having to loom over him to make sure he does the same.

So to conclude, I'm giving this application a well deserved THUMBS-DOWN. Sorry, but good luck anyways!


EDIT: I swear I have no idea why my draft of this reply is attached.

 

[Gay_Scout_Main]

OK i know i'm done here but to be honest, you guys are just rubbing my chat log in my face and now i regret it but now that i know my cons i can fix them.

Be fair and at least review my performance of being a staff member when i'm in action. If i don't preform to your standards then fair be it i will not become staff.

 

[Conor]

Okay then, my opinion on this user.

I'll start by listing the POSITIVES.
. An approachable individual at all points. I've known Really_Gay_Scout_Main_With_Aids to be someone open to conversation, easy to talk to. He's a person who gives anyone and everyone the chance to voice their opinion be it good or bad, this person will listen to them and pay close attention.
. Fairly down to earth. He's a face to face kinda guy. He hasn't ever lied to me, he's never made himself out to be above me or anybody else he shares the server with, a true delight to play with or against in a game server.
. Reasonable. He's a stand up guy for the most part, open to criticism and is usually quite a diplomatic individual, allowing everyone to say their piece without receiving any aggression or unpleasant response.
. He understands the rules and enforces them to letter. There has not been one point at which I have seen Really_Gay_Scout_Main_With_Aids to disregard the rules or intentionally disobey an admin or a rule that has been set down. If the rule says be clear in your orders/commands (Jailbreak) this guy will repeat his orders in four different languages if he so has to!

But this is only when a figure of authority is present, he often appears to be a completely different character when the staff members are not on the server. For him to be reliable, he often needs to be baby-sitted. This leads me to my next point, the NEGATIVES of his application and who wrote it. Let's do this.

. I'll start with the rules. He will disobey them, often finding himself being disrespectful to other players and staff members, my evidence being in this gem of a chat log.
http://stats.flux.tf/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=353884
. Graphic language. This person will often speak in an over sexually manner for example using explicit or provocative language to other people and describing other people in a sexual way. He has spoken about users such as myself in this way on a number of occasions.
. Insults/Bullying. If a user sounds of a young age they are certain to receive aggressive comments or insults in regards to this. When it comes to children on the server, this user is the playground bully.
. Deceit. This stems back to the link between my positive and negative points, all of this user's positive aspects shine and brighten up the Jailbreak experience for everyone! But this only when an admin such as Mr., death. or GreGre are on. I am using these in particular as examples as for example when ColdRamen is present on the server Really_Gay_Scout_Main_With_Aids becomes an awkward mix of a model player, and a potentially superb admin and a preteen bully, immature, offensive, sexual, and sometimes quite racist. All of this is put down as "Banter" when it is called to the attention of ColdRamen. However he is quiet and respectful in the presence of the more serious individuals who administrate for the Flux.TF servers.
. Racism. A lot of the language used by this user can be described as vulgar, offensive or downright racist. When he speaks he has no one's opinion's in mind, anyone not friends with this user is potentially the butt of his next joke.
.Popular. Yes they may seem like an obscure reason but his influence on the server can often spur outbursts of racism and offensive language in other people on the server. An example of this would be not so long ago, I went warden in the jailbreak server, y'know standard stuff. After this user comments on my voice and describes that how I talk makes him want to perform sex acts with me we find people with names such as this. View attachment

Now that I've laid down my opinion on this user In general I think he would be an excellent admin! However we cannot have a more responsible staff member baby-sitting him at every minute of which he occupies one of the servers ran by my internet girlfriend, Flux and because of this his good qualities become obsolete as if he requires a responsible person to accompany him when he is administrating a server then I don't think it's worth it as the responsible admin would be just as capable of doing their job without having to loom over him to make sure he does the same.

So to conclude, I'm giving this application a well deserved THUMBS-DOWN. Sorry, but good luck anyways!


EDIT: I swear I have no idea why my draft of this reply is attached.

Yet another edit, I missed a point. Sorry!

 

[adam]

well obviously it's gonna be no even though i have said this quite enough
"Also if you know me, i can be a bit stupid at times, but if i do become staff i will have to stop and if i don't stop, demote me"
It seems you guys see me as an immature 2 year old and i can see that by my logs but that does not mean i can't be serious as well.
The serious side of me can be seen all through in my application and honestly none of my chat logs have really broken any rules.
To be fair even if you guys see me as an immature douche at least give me a chance and judge my skill of being a part of a staff team when i'm in action.

There are no chances for someone to become an admin like that.
If you are applying for administrator, you are supposed to be perfect at most things, like not perfect at all, you need to have more positives than negatives.
That kind of behavior is NOT acceptable, when I see you in the server, you're mostly quiet in the chat, you aren't toxic, but when all admins on the server disappear, you turn into a completely different person, no offense.
I'm sorry, but your replies won't change my vote UNTIL I see changes.

 

[Gay_Scout_Main]

There are no chances for someone to become an admin like that.
If you are applying for administrator, you are supposed to be perfect at most things, like not perfect at all, you need to have more positives than negatives.
That kind of behavior is NOT acceptable, when I see you in the server, you're mostly quiet in the chat, you aren't toxic, but when all admins on the server disappear, you turn into a completely different person, no offense.
I'm sorry, but your replies won't change my vote UNTIL I see changes.

How long will it take to really kill off my ego so that you will notice?
I very much like how you say i need more positives than negatives but to be honest 100% of the negatives take 1 second to fix, the positives on the other hand is what i say would essential for being a part of the staff team and i get it you guys think i'm gonna ruin other things but let me ask you this have you seen me be staff or at least tested my skills?

 

[Conor]

How long will it take to really kill off my ego so that you will notice?

Then you say things like that which bring up more negative points.

 

[adam]

How long will it take to really kill off my ego so that you will notice?
I very much like how you say i need more positives than negatives but to be honest 100% of the negatives take 1 second to fix, the positives on the other hand is what i say would essential for being a part of the staff team and i get it you guys think i'm gonna ruin other things but let me ask you this have you seen me be staff or at least tested my skills?

No, you've taken a chance and ruined it.

your behavior better be good, boi

You didn't make your behavior good, meaning that all of the negatives don't take ONE second to fix, plus it's irrelevant to ask if we've seen you be staff or not, because this is an admin application, not a application to be tested as a staff member.

 

[Gay_Scout_Main]

Well isaac has a point. I guess i submit i have no chance of even showing of my skills of being a staff member because all you guys just think i'm gonna bully children all day.

My
defence
.Firstly isaac your telling everyone that i need a baby sitter if i was gonna become staff and yet there is a reports section for a reason if i was abusing then a player can report me. I know if i'm taking a risk or not
.Secondly Death if your gonna tell me i don't deserve a chance then why should you as i have look through the reports section and i have seen reports of you spam slapping people yet you got an extra chance
.Thirdly i would like to see the staff teams opinion of how i would preform in a scenario e.g "freekillers but i wasn't online to see it" i would firstly check the logs, ask for proof and if i do have proof i will take action.
.Fourth I see you guys hate me using the excuse "banta" well a lot of what i see is banta, i do listen to staff and i don't see why i shouldn't become one if you guys give me a chance to see my full potential.