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dork

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This application will be mostly the same as my past app, with some changes in a few areas; Most notably my punishment ladders.
User name: Dork

Name: Dork

Your Age: 16

Do you have at least 3 days of accumulative playtime on our servers? Yes

Have you read the guide on how to apply?: Yes

Have you been punished in the last 60 days?: No

Have you had an application declined in the last 90 days?: Yes

Do you have a microphone?: No. If that is ever a problem I'd rather discuss it with an admin.

Location: London.

Your SteamID: [U:1:314917635]

Your DiscordID: dork#2960

Have you managed servers previously?: No

On what server(s) would you like to moderate? Please list the server name and IP address.
  • Jailbreak | 85.117.240.70:27035
  • HigherTower | 85.117.240.66:27015
Are you familiar with admin commands?:
There's still some things I need to learn, but I’ve got the basics.


Why would you like to become a moderator?:
I spend almost all of my time in TF2 on flux servers. I have a lot of respect for the players here, newbies and regulars alike; It bothers me seeing newer players being deterred because of the occasional cheater, toxic player etc. Since my last application was declined, I've taken the time to further develop my understanding of the servers rules and how the current moderators enforce them. I decided to apply to help lower the amount of rulebreakers as much as possible, as I'm aware that the staff wont always be active; I believe I could fill in those "gaps" and help make this server the best place it can be for everyone.

Do you know and have spoken to any of the current staff members?:
Festive God, Matt , Zak, Funny, Xeltic, Apple Pie.

When are you usually available to play?:
For the most part I will be active every day, but obviously I wont spend ALL of my time on TF2. I will however use whatever time I have outside to handle reports, appeals etc. During weekdays (GMT) I will be available from 4:30PM - 8/9PM, Weekends and holidays should be from 9/10AM - 8/9PM. I would like to keep this more brief so I'm down to discuss more privately.

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Please give us your ideal way of punishing players, specific to the server you want to moderate:

A good amount of the punishments have similar ladders, so many have been grouped together as such; Feel free to comment for some clarification and I’ll happily edit the post. If it's obvious that someone is avoiding punishment or refusing to cooperate, I will move ahead one step in the ladder. It took a few tries but I'm happy with the general ladder I've created.


Jailbreak (Their are a lot of things to cover, so I will stick with what I consider "big" and will update if necessary. Most JB ladders after the first include a slay at every step.)
  • Free Killing:
    1st | A warning and a slay. Accident or not, I'll explain that they should read the rules.
    2nd | 1 hour Tban.
    3rd | 2 hour Tban.
    4th | 4 hour Tban.
    5th | 8 hour Tban.
    6th | 1 day Tban.
    7th | 1 week Tban.
    8th | 2 week Tban.
    9th | 1 month Tban.
    10th | Permanent Tban.

  • Mass Freekill: (I’ve noticed that it often takes a second time for an MFKer to get perm Tbanned, so I made this ladder that way.)
    1st | Slay and Tban for 1 week. Explain what they did.
    2nd | Permanent Tban.

  • Camping armoury, sticky trapping etc :
    1st | Warning and a slay, a reminder to read the rules.
    2nd | 1 hour Tban.
    3rd | 2 hour Tban.
    4th | 4 hour Tban.
    5th | 8 hour Tban.
    6th | 1 day Tban.
    7th | 1 week Tban.
    8th | 2 week Tban.
    9th | 1 month Tban.
    10th | Permanent Tban.

  • Forcing Warden (!w) and forcing freeday:
    1st | Slay and a warning, reminder of the rules.
    2nd | 1 hour Tban.
    3rd | 2 hour Tban.
    4th | 4 hour Tban.
    5th | 8 hour Tban.
    6th | 1 day Tban.
    7th | 1 week Tban.
    8th | 2 week Tban.
    9th | 1 month Tban.
    10th | Permanent Tban.

  • General blue misbehaviour (Inactive guard, LR denial, favouritism etc. I can specify all if need be.:
    1st | Just a warning. A slay will occur if it resulted in a red or blu death.
    2nd | 1 hour Tban.
    3rd | 2 hour Tban.
    4th | 4 hour Tban.
    5th | 8 hour Tban.
    6th | 1 day Tban.
    7th | 1 week Tban.
    8th | 2 week Tban.
    9th | 1 month Tban.
    10th | Permanent Tban.


  • Illegal ff, teamkilling:
    1st | Warning and slay.
    2nd | 1 hour Tban.
    3rd | 2 hour Tban.
    4th | 4 hour Tban.
    5th | 8 hour Tban.
    6th | 1 day Tban.
    7th | 1 week Tban.
    8th | 2 week Tban.
    9th | 1 month Tban.
    10th | Permanent Tban.

  • Ghosting:
    1st | Warning and reminder of the rules, specify what counts as ghosting if there's any confusion.
    2nd | 1 hour mute or gag.
    3rd | 2 hour mute or gag.
    4th | 4 hour mute or gag.
    5th | 8 hour mute or gag.
    6th | 1 day mute or gag.
    7th | 1 week mute or gag.
    8th | 2 week mute or gag.
    9th | 1 month mute or gag.
    10th | Permanent mute or gag.


    Delaying rounds: (Tban is replaced with ban for those on red.)
    1st | A warning and reminder to read the rules; Slay if non-compliant.
    2nd | 1 hour Tban.
    3rd | 2 hour Tban.
    4th | 4 hour Tban.
    5th | 8 hour Tban.
    6th | 1 day Tban.
    7th | 1 week Tban.
    8th | 2 week Tban.
    9th | 1 month Tban.
    10th | Permanent Tban.

General (Highertower) and Discord:
  • Player disrespect over mic or chat. ( Including racism, toxicity etc.)
    1st | Warning and where they can read the rules.
    2nd | 1 hour mute or gag.
    3rd | 2 hour mute or gag.
    4th | 4 hour mute or gag.
    5th | 8 hour mute or gag.
    6th | 1 day mute or gag.
    7th | 1 week mute or gag.
    8th | 2 week mute or gag.
    9th | 1 month mute or gag. At this point I'd hope they'd know better.
    10th | Permanent mute or gag.

  • Mic and chat spam (Soundboards, excessive binds etc.)
    1st | Warning and explanation of the rules.
    2nd | 1 hour mute or gag.
    3rd | 2 hour mute or gag.
    4th | 4 hour mute or gag.
    5th | 8 hour mute or gag.
    6th | 1 day mute or gag.
    7th | 1 week mute or gag.
    8th | 2 week mute or gag.
    9th | 1 month mute or gag.
    10th | Permanent mute or gag.

  • Hacking or advertising hacks, scamming:
    1st | Permanent mute or gag, unappealable ban in cases of hacking.

  • Trolling, Exploiting/Griefing:
    1st | Warning and ensuring they stop.
    2nd | 1 hour ban.
    3rd | 2 hour ban.
    4th | 4 hour ban.
    5th | 8 hour ban.
    6th | 1 day ban.
    7th | 1 week ban.
    8th | 2 week ban.
    9th | 1 month ban.
    10th | Permanent ban.

  • Impersonating staff (This should be taken seriously, so steps from previous ladders will be left out; It seems harsh but frequenting this obviously isn't an accident.)
    1st | A stern warning along with a reminder to check over the rules, explain why its not ok. Warn them of the punishments they'll receive if they continue.
    2nd| 1 day ban.
    3rd | 1 week ban.
    4th | 2 week ban
    5th | 1 month ban.
    6th | Permanent ban.

    Exposing undercover staff:
    1st | 1 hour mute or gag. Warn the user.
    2nd | 2 hour mute or gag.
    3rd | 4 hour mute or gag.
    4th | 8 hour mute or gag.
    5th | 1 day mute or gag.
    6th | 1 week mute or gag.
    7th | 2 week mute or gag.
    8th | 1 month mute or gag.
    9th | Permanent mute or gag.

  • Speaking anything other than English in mic or chat:
    1st | A warning and reminder of the the rules, attempt to see if they can communicate in English at all.
    2nd | 1 hour mute or gag.
    3rd | 2 hour mute or gag.
    4th | 4 hour mute or gag.
    5th | 8 hour mute or gag.
    6th | 1 day mute or gag.
    7th | 1 week mute or gag.
    8th | 2 week mute or gag.
    9th | 1 month mute or gag.
    10th | Permanent mute or gag.

  • NSFW spray:
    Spray ban until their spray is changed and shown to staff, any offense after is a permanent spray ban.

  • Spawn camping:
    1st | A reminder that spawn camping is against the rules, along with a warning and ensure they stop when told to. Define spawn camping if there is confusion.
    2nd | 1 hour ban.
    3rd | 2 hour ban.
    4th | 4 hour ban.
    5th | 8 hour ban.
    6th | 1 day ban.
    7th | 1 week ban.
    8th | 2 week ban.
    9th | 1 month ban.
    10th | Permanent ban.

  • Abusing !Calladmin
    1st | Warning, explain why it shouldn't be abused.
    2nd | 1 hour ban.
    3rd | 2 hour ban.
    4th | 4 hour ban.
    5th | 8 hour ban.
    6th | 1 day ban.
    7th | 1 week ban.
    8th | 2 week ban.
    9th | 1 month ban.
    10th | Permanent ban.

  • Misuse of #Requesthelp or shitposting/off-topic in forum reports (DMute = forum ban outside of discord.)
    1st | A warning and removal of the content.
    2nd | 1 hour Dmute
    3rd | 2 hour Dmute
    4th | 4 hour Dmute.
    5th | 8 hour Dmute.
    6th | 1 day Dmute.
    7th | 1 week Dmute.
    8th | 2 week Dmute.
    9th | 1 month Dmute.
    10th | Permanent Dmute.


  • AFK user:
    Confirm they are AFK and move them to the spectator team.

    Is there any other information you would like us to know about?: Not really, other than the fact that I have been a donator for months and frequently use my perks to enforce the rules while staff cant get on right away.

    Are you proficient in languages other than English? No.
 
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dork

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Thanks for taking the time to read, let me know if I missed anything!
Edit: Fixed the missing step in the discord ladder where the 9th step was missing. Loosened up the impersonation ladder to be consistent with others while still remaining somewhat harsher, as believe it should.

Final edit: Removed the "hour" steps from the impersonation ladder. No more changes will be made; the harshness is justifiable.
 
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HoneyBadger

6U TE2H PMV8
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A well written application. You do possess the qualities to become a moderator as I have seen you correcting rulebreakers and constantly helping out by reporting them on discord. I have a strong feeling you'll get accepted. Good luck buddy!
 

♡ Xeltic ♡

What happened to allowing opinions.
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As Apple said it's a well written application, the ban ladder is perfectly made, i can't say much about you ingame and such, i've only met you once ingame but i have had interactions with you on the discord and i can tell you possess the right qualities for the position as moderator for flux.

This will be getting a +1 from me, hope to you see on the team.
 

sugarr

goober
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Hello Dork, I'm just say a few things positive about this

-Amazing ladder

-You are very nice and correct rule breakers

-you've had good interactions on discord


That's all I wanted to say I would say you are a perfect fit for a moderator on this server. Good luck!
 

Banana

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Jan 24, 2021
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Your SteamID: [U:1:314917635]
This isn't the right Steam ID form.

Regarding your punishment ladder

Taken from impersonating admin
3rd | 1 day ban.
4th | 1 month ban.
Jumping from 1 day to 1 month is extremely harsh.
EDIT: Sorry what I meant to say was, if it is a significant offence why even start with an hour? It just creates these jarring inconsistencies, while yes harsh punishments are needed, they shouldnt happen after what s basically a slap on the wrist.

Found in a significant amount of your punishment ladders
6th | 1 day ban.
7th | 1 week ban.
This is super prevalent in your application and again, jumping from one day to seven is harsh. Id suggest adding one or two extra punishments before a week as a solution.

Taken from your Misuse of #Requesthelp or shitposting/off-topic in forum reports (DMute = forum ban outside of discord.)
8th | 2 week Dmute.
10th | Permanent Dmute.
And once again, kind of harsh jumping from 2 weeks to a perma. At least go to a month before a perma.

These poor punishments are exacerbated by the fact that this is your second application.
I suggest making the earlier segments of your ladder much more strict so you don't see vast jumps to a perma ban.

Regarding your chat logs
They are NOT the chat logs of a staff member.
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Some of these are all less than a month old.

While I would normally give the benefit of the doubt, you were already declined once so I would have expected a more competent punishment ladder as well as improved behaviour, especially considering your last application was declined for the exact same issues. Not only were you given specific feedback, you failed to satisfy any basic improvements from your last application.

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You clearly have not changed and I unfortunately do not think you are ready to be a moderator.
 
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dork

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Thanks for the reply banana, I'll reply best I can.

The 1 day to a week feedback is noted, thanks. Personally I felt that I had made my ladder as fair/ least harsh as possible; So I'll consider altering it tomorrow. Id like to add that there is at least 4 steps before the jump depending on how you look at it: anyone breaking the rules that often shouldn't be surprised with the punishment.
Again I'll consider adding something between the two, thanks!

The majority of those logs are jokes, banter. I'm friendly with multiple people on this server, I don't believe swearing is an issue; I can always tone it down if required. The only ones I can think of that wouldn't be friendly are the ones directed towards mimmo and donator abuse. I'll accept that.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the steam ID but do you mind stating which form i should provide it in? Steam ID3 is the format commonly used for reports so I would've thought it was fine for my application.

Hope that clears it up.
 
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Noodl

Positively Inhumane
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Steam3s are fine. As are those chatlogs, imo. Chat is a silly thing to inspect without context.
 

Banana

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Admin Impersonation:
2nd | 4 hour ban.
3rd | 8 hour ban.
A bit too lenient for something that is supposed to be a major offence?

Taken from a signficant amount of your ladders
6th | 1 day Tban.
7th | 1 week Tban.
Jumping from one day to a week is a little bit too harsh, maybe change a few of the hour values to remedy it?

I will admit I shouldn't have been as harsh on your chatlogs but your punishment ladder fixes need a little more fixing.
That being said I don't think there are any other issues apart from your ladder and you are a great member of the community. So I’m gonna say neutral for now!
 

dork

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I'll reconsider the impersonation ladder, thanks.

Personally, I think there's nothing wrong with my general ladders. There are accepted ladders that are just as "harsh" if not harsher with their steps. I believe mine is fair; I'll be keeping it the way it is.

Thanks again banana :) Appreciate the feedback.
 

whatevs

Brisk God
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Hi dork,

Congratulations and welcome to the team. You will be moderating Jailbreak and Highertower.
I will contact you on Discord shortly with more details.

Accepted.
 
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