Declined report on adam the 11 year old

[Fadel]

- Name of the rulebreaker(s) adam - Thunder
- Steam IDs of the above https://steamcommunity.com/id/phalluz
- Rules they broke, and an explanation or some background info Exploiting the map, and encouraging other players to do so by using their admin powers (/csay) to announce that they've brokenit. He also kept saying that everyone could do it, so it's not really exploiting in his defense when I asked him to stop. But, that had negative results as everyone went to try it the round after because "they can all do it"
- Evidence
https://i.imgur.com/LZMoXWU.png
https://i.imgur.com/Z6L94BT.png

 

[Jim]

@Death

 

[adam]

I laughed when I saw the title. (hi thanks jim for letting me come here).
Alright, so, first of all, this happened like 2 months ago I think, as this point of time, the servers were getting DDoSed and people were already getting disconnected from the server because of some sort of error. (probably the net overflow kind of error).
So, for some reason, when we were playing, and till this day, I remember that we were playing hide and seek or hunger games, I went into climb, and I found out that there is that kind of absence of a wall, so I went there to check it out, and notified the owner about that map error.
As for the people calling me out for exploiting, I know that it is somehow exploiting but it is the map's fault, not mine, I never used some sort of program or even used a single admin command to make that wall disappear.
Thanks.
EDIT: I forgot to explain the csay thing:
I have never seen a map broken before so I was astonished to see a map broken before, that's why.
But I do see myself quite wrong for doing the csay, sorry.

 

[adam]

As this was the story, I did not reply to the "rules I've broken" thing.
Bullet points ready:

encouraging other players to do so by using their admin powers (/csay) to announce that they've brokenit

• If you would've listened closely enough, I said in voice chat that the map has an error due to the DDoS for some reason, and that I never did anything to break it, when I found it, I went in, that's not exploiting, everyone could see it too, even if I wasn't there, and to clarify, when it was sort of announced that the map was broken, that wasn't encouraging "everyone" to get under the map.

• everyone

• There was no everyone at all, the whole RED team was dead except for two, me, and some other guy, and two BLUs,

• when I asked him to stop

  I don't remember you asking me to stop.

 

[Fadel]

1- It was before the servers got a ddos, and even if it was during it, you must be genuinely stupid if you think a ddos can change anything in a map. So using that as an excuse to justify how you were exploiting that spot during hide and seek is just funny.
2- If u bothered to read, you'd see that I said encouraging others to do so AFTER, even if not intentionally. You kept telling me to spectate you over and over so you can prove to me that it's the map fault, but as I said, that had negative results, since everyone else who was dead also spectated you to see how it's done.
3- Me and my friend did say stop exploiting, but you kept trying hard to prove to us that you weren't by showing us that it's the map fault, but it really isn't because you decide to stay in the same spot and brag about.
You were obviously exploiting, and you were using that spot to gain advantage over others.

 

[adam]

Alright alright, calm your nuts down.
To let you know, it was during the DDoS and if you even read closely enough, you would see that I have notified Noodl about the map error thing when this happened, why else would a map error happen, why did people get disconnected from the server when a lot of people talked in voice chat? And please tell me how I can basically do something wrong in which makes a god damn wall disappear.
When I was wandering around in the map trying to find a place to hide, I was originally going to hide in the water of climb, below the ledge thingy, and then, I discovered that the wall disappeared, how do you think and in which way makes you think that I made a wall disappear? Do you think I used some kind of hack?
If you plainly think like this "yea you exploited, you got under the map through a wall that disappeared and showed people how to do it", then that's bullshit, because I NEVER showed someone and do not know the exact reason of why the wall in that part disappeared, and I would like to request you something:
Give me a demo or GIF showing that I showed people how this exploit is done.
And if I also showed people how the exploit is done, give me only ONE single person that "saw how it was done" to show me or any admin in Flux how it's done, and how to make the wall disappear, because I assure you, I do not know how it's done nor why it happened.
Good day.

 

[Fadel]

To let you know, it was during the DDoS and if you even read closely enough, you would see that I have notified Noodl about the map error thing when this happened, why else would a map error happen, why did people get disconnected from the server when a lot of people talked in voice chat? And please tell me how I can basically do something wrong in which makes a god damn wall disappear.

When I was wandering around in the map trying to find a place to hide, I was originally going to hide in the water of climb, below the ledge thingy, and then, I discovered that the wall disappeared, how do you think and in which way makes you think that I made a wall disappear? Do you think I used some kind of hack?

Buffer overflow is a thing on every server, and no one was lagging. I didn't say that you "made the wall disappear" I simply said that you found the place and decided to camp in it during hide and seek. As an administrator, you should not be hiding in a spot that is below the actual map.

because I NEVER showed someone and do not know the exact reason of why the wall in that part disappeared, and I would like to request you something:
Give me a demo or GIF showing that I showed people how this exploit is done.

And again, over the same thing. If you bothered to read, and this is the second time I say this

you'd see that I said encouraging others to do so AFTER, even if not intentionally. You kept telling me to spectate you over and over so you can prove to me that it's the map fault, but as I said, that had negative results, since everyone else who was dead also spectated you to see how it's done.

and to the show someone who've seen it, you yourself stated that it's been two months or even more.

 

[adam]

"In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, speed or level design etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers."
^ just to remind you what exploiting means.
First of all, you may see this as a dumb excuse, and a way of getting away from the problem, a lot of times I experience my maps having a glitch, and again, when I saw the wall and got in, I was surprised and I told the owner right away about it, and it was fine.
And, to tell you, I had no advantage against anyone in the server, anyone could've went into the wall and be under the map, I did not get an advantage, and to my knowledge, I did not exploit.
Thank you.
Also, @Noodl

 

[Fadel]

can someone with a high iq level handle my report instead

 

[Jampoint]

First off, what kind of title is that? Adam is 12, and that just looks like you are trying to attack him.
Now, back to the actual report...

The evidence isn't fully conclusive of everything you claim, as they are screenshots, not a demo. You have no exact proof he was purposefully trying to hide there in Hide and Seek, as the wall bugging out was a one round thing, right? You also don't have evidence he was encouraging everyone to do the exploit too, even after the round was over, as most people were dead, and again, it was a one round thing as the wall returned to its original state. The map bugging out looks like it was a map bug you see sometimes in ba_mlcastle_v10, where you can see walls and buttons in other areas of the map that they are not supposed to be in. For example, you can see a button in the corner instead of being on the Armory wall. Since they are about the same maps, as in similar textures and models, that's probably what happened in that round.

 

[Jim]

When Fadel's bait works... Feels thonk man...

 

[Aubble]

Closing this. It is apparent that most of the staff do not find the evidence to be supportive enough to oblige a punishment.